the latest indie build is actually at shellfront, not at the indiestep site: http://www.shellfront.org/lsdev. (but see, it's not actually an indie build, because it's a shellfront build, but it's built off the latest indiestep cvs, so i think the identifier is something like "indiestep-shellfront-20030517"...*cough*) and of course, vendicator's vtray, the updated-hacked systray2, is at http://vendicator.shellfront.org