took out my attempts at setting those 2 options and tried what you suggested Boreas. It said neither of the options were set.

i then put both of these lines in the themes .rc file...

DynAmpStartNormal true
DynAmpWinampStartNormal true

...then i tried what you suggested again Boreas and it said that both were set to true yet winamp still opens minimised. So i think you are right, it must be a bug in dynamp 0.51. Not sure if that was the case with the last version or not (0.50) but it is certainly the case with this version.

I've been through every single option for winamp and also the skin options for the LS theme for winamp but i can't see anything which could contradict this setting.

I'll see if i can notify the person who makes dynamp about this.

Thanks a lot for you help guys, you've been really good about this.

Cheers