the closest i found also was xplite but the dang menu is messed and the lxcommand thing annoys the crap outta me. yes i came across a lot of stuff, found a bunch of other decent themes and wallpapers but xplite is all i found for a litestep theme that replicated xp luna. as for 10 hours of searching, i wasnt only searching for a theme, i also spent some of tht time searching for that wallpaper, searching for ways to "fix" or edit the xplite theme to do what i need and get rid of the lxcommand, trying to figure out why my pc was laggin (coem to find out right b4 i went to bed i had a bad case of alexa spyware). and also helped a friend with some things. also, i found the wallpaper last night, someone i knew (but really didnt know) had a perfect high quality copy. as for theme, i still could use either a better theme or edit this one to look like i want and do like i want. btw, it had taken me 5 hours to come across the xplite because well it was buried deep in a site (cant remember which, too many, lol) i think it was this one, lol. anywho, i found it and it was the ONLY one i found that actually looks a lot like xp luna. anywho, thanks random fire for the effort, lol. shows someone out there on the net is willing to help a total stranger.