thanks a lot jugg, that was what i was looking for. after playing around with it some today, i am starting to get the hang of it and am definitly going to try to learn it the way you specified. i'll follow your advice only i'll modify it a bit to fit my needs better.

i cant seem to find anything that mentions how to quit but not uninstall though...can you go into some more detail on that or tell me exactly where to look? the readme doesnt mention it

i have to admit i was kind of weary about posting here the first time, this being my first attempt at a new shell i was kind of scared of the reaction my question would get. i would just like to thank you for your good reply and for not flaming me :)