cerbie: unstable? i only had one problem with it, with the 2.9.5 installer, that themes didnt get installed. but i love ots2, i always hated ots1, i liked to have a common module dir like in lsdistro, but without the cons of having only one version of the modules for every theme. i agree that themes need to learn how to make ots2 compatible themes (every detail is in the ots2 website), but that will happen in the next few months, there are already many functional ots2 themes availible.