"Microsoft and its partners envision this system being used to verify the identity of software running on remote machines and make certain the software hasn't been modified since its manufacture."
http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,3959,1053555,00.asp
Pisnaz
They've been at that for some time. Its kind of disturbing. I can't remember how long ago it was but they went to court trying to make it so they 'own' TCP/IP becouse they made it for the govt. Thats just obsurd. They've been working on the Palladium system for a long time *longhorn is going to include it*
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/features/2002/jul02/0724palladiumwp.asp
What that essentially does is tell Microsoft everything you do, and if its not legit, it simply dosent run, this will reflect from watching a simple porn you downloaded off IRC to a song you got from a friend over ICQ. Not only that but if it is 'copyrighted' essentially you can be arrested for pirating. Scary thought.
- fRactIalz00m
the govenment can't be faciest so i guess they let our companys own our lives instead. gee, that doesn't sound like old-england....
I can see a positive side to this. This feature in Windows is likely scare a lot of people off from upgrading. I suspect a lot of people may turn to Linux. Anything MS does to make it's competion more appealing is a good thing.
Yea, I was about to say. If anything, it will force more people to use diffrent opperating systems due to the constraint they will most likely place apon you.
It's bad enough they force you to register. Now they force you to verify with windows xp. Any more constraints, and I'm moving on to something else.
I'm fond of Linux but MS-Windows can't be replace easily :(
But I don't understand one thing:
Win2K is the best OS MS had ever made and I'll never understand why people always need to switch to the last version of everything; even if it's worth than the previous one. XP came with nothing more than Win2K except bugs and almost everyone switched to it. People are nothing but sheeps !
Win2K is an extremely impressive and stable version of Windows. But there are advantages to upgrading to XP.
- Better performance for games
- It's boots extremely fast
- Better support for ADSL connection
- Better support for newer hardware
My point is that upgrading your version Windows doesn't make you a sheep. Hardcore Linux users would call you a sheep for using Windows regardless of your choice of versions. Mac users would call you a sheep for using a PC.
DrWorm: I don't want to start a polemic, but I just want to point out few things:
- XP boot faster than 2K; that's right (at the begining) but with my 2K box, I can play, recycle LS, download 24/7, do whatever I want during TWO MONTHS without rebooting :)
- I have no problem with ADSL (I have Internet, now !)
- Hardware drivers are the same for 2K and XP; then...
- Tell me what game doesn't work on 2K AND work fine under XP
I agree with you Smurth, when running windows I use 2000. Every single time I have tried XP (for a better dual monitor support) I haven't been able to bear it for more than a few hours... I simply HATE XP... so huge, so resource consuming, so automated according to Billy's (gate) likes, so ugly/big graphics (I always switch to classic windows style), it's like a win 2000 made for stupids... i.e. you want to search a file, you go to the search window and suddently a dog jumps through your screen asking you if you want to search for etc, etc, etc and you have to read about 3 pages of the "amazingly stupid" wizard to discover how to search for a file! instead of displaying a combobox to enter your search at once... And no matter how much time you spend trying to make XP work as an OS, and not as a wizard you will always have something to remind you that XP doesn't do things like you (the user) want, but how Billy the kid thought that most users would like.
I believe 2000 will be the last win OS that I'll use, I don't want to think the awful things that longhorn will do... So when 2000 gets too old I'll switch to Linux for good...
Sorry for the OT, but I really hate XP and the "M$ way", although I think LS on win2000 is a great OS ;)
I wasn't saying that XP is better than 2000. I'm agree that 2000 is the best version Windows. I hate the wizards in XP. I hate media player. I hate the built in support for ZIP files. I hate the CD writing capabilities. I hate explorer. I hate IE. XP is trying to be the jack of all trades but is master of none.
But like it or not XP does have advantages over 2000 (and disadvantages) that makes it more appealling for many users. There is nothing wrong with upgrading to XP. Especially if upgrading from 9x.
Don't get me wrong DrWorm, I wasn't arguing 'against you', I just did it against WinXP, as a matter of fact I also agree with you ;) ... i.e. the reason for which I have tryed win XP, since 2000 has a real bad support for dual monitors
I would have one major problem with being "forced by circumstance" to switch to Linux. and that would be with gaming. I realize that there are programs (whose names I can't think of right now) that enable some MS software to run under Linux, but it's not perfect. Some stuff still doesn't run, and as far as I know, a lot of games don't. Especially the ones that use DirectX. Which, regardless if you like it or not, is pretty widely used by game developers. If Linux could run MS programs better, I would give it a shot. I hear nothing but rave reviews about Linux from my friends that use it. but at home, I game. 75-80% of my time spent on my PC at home is gaming. and if I would switch to linux, and could only run 1 out of every 5 games, I would be pissed. so, until it runs MS software better, I'm sticking with Windows.
sorry, end rant.
I too would love to give Linux my support and dump Windows. But I'm not prepared to give up all my prefered windows applications and I don't have a lot of faith in emulators.
My understanding is that Palladium requires Palladium enabled hardware to function properly. I could be wrong about that, but if that's the case then it would simply be an issue of avoiding palladium enabled hardware. Besides, given that Windows XP activation was cracked before Windows XP was even released, I'm sure someone will come up with a way to foil palladium. Heck, it wouldn't be the first time I've had to use a hack/crack on software I've bought and paid for just to make it usable...
The Fritz Chip Disagrees
Perhaps no one has seen that minor item. Turns out that it will be inside your processor. It does all the checking and passes it to Longhorn. You are going to have to manage to mod around the Fritz Chip to really be able to stop it from knowing what you are doing...
Perhaps you should check out the
Against TCPA Website
It's a scary future. We are the pawns, Microsoft and Intel are the chess masters. :)
We're All Doomed
Of course, now M$ will somehow manage to no longer support AMD, or they'll force AMD to include the "Fritz chip" in the proc's. :(
I'd have to add that XP provides a reliable way of reviving dropped PCMCIA cards after standby/hiberbation (2KSP3 shows the same problems and requires a full (lengthy) reboot).
The antialiasing of fonts is also a dramatic improvement and makes life easier when using LCDs in general.
On the whole, XP will probably be with me for some time. Linux does a lot, but with OpenOffice available, I won't need a further MS upgrade and the Windows-specific nature of my CAD packages means Linux is not viable as a 24/7 replacement just yet. Someday soon, perhaps :) Linux also needs (badly IMHO) a far simpler method of installing software and allowing multiple versions of libraries to coexist, avoiding the dependency hell that foils even debian/Knoppix.
That said, Palladium and its ilk will not be avoidable for all that long if it takes off on Windows. It may be a few years later on other platforms, but I suspect it (or something similar) will be mandatory eventually.
Currently, I have no interest in future versions of Windows since XP does all I want. When I need a new computer/OS, if Linux doesn't fit the bill (addressing the dependency problem without requiring me to recompile everything a la Gentoo) when I do need an upgrade, I'll be happy to move to Mac, Palladium or not.