with some of the themes i install..all of my icons disapear from the desktop...is this just a feature of the themes to keep the desktop clean...or is there something I can do to make sure the icons show....also how do i access the bang command input box from other themes aside from the default....do i need to load a specific module with the theme...?

there are specific modules that display desktop icons, not entirely certain because i never use them but i think xlabel is one the modules that support desktop icons.

so anyway, if you dl a theme where the designer didn't use icons then you wont get any.
of course you can always add in a desktop icon module yourself.

as far as the command box again, that is a specific module.
if the theme you want to use doesn't have it included then you can just add it yourself

alright...though as i am new to this what would the name of the module be for the command box...i really dont care about the desktop icons...it looks nicer without them.....but yea about the command box...what module..and do I only set it to load in the theme.rc or do i put it in the other one as well (the name of the other one is slipping from my mind right now).....I really love this shell....its so much more functional than the windows shell...the only complaints i have so far is that i didn't find it sooner....also i was wondering about times when i get errors abotu modules not being found even though I installed them manually and also sometimes certain skins arent found etc...just little problems....im just thinking that the skins just arent included but the modules is a different story.....and one more thing....same idea as the skins but its with the wallpapers instead..ohwell....but thankyou for the help..I greatly appreciate it

lsxcommand is the module you want, I believe. You will need to put it into your theme.rc, like so:

Down near the bottom of your theme.rc, some config files should be specified (like this):

In that config file, you need to specify various things, such as where you want the lsxcommand box to be, its color, what words it displays etc. etc. Mine looks like this:

The next time you download a theme, and some of the modules don't work (because, for instance, NetLoadModule can't find it) make sure that the author didn't do something stupid- like specify 'geekamp' when they meant 'geekamp-1.9.7'. Because, you see, there is no 'geekamp', only a 'geekamp-1.9.7', 1.9.6, 1.9.5 etc., etc., etc. And you'll have to go in and add a version number, its a pain, I know. Generally you can just use one that you already have on your harddisk, if it seems to work badly, update the version =).
(If all of this seems to be a bit editing intensive, don't worry- if you aren't making themes, it doesn't come up that often)

awesome thanks for the info