Extinction Thread last updated on 2003-12-11 17:48:20

Posted by member 5600 on 2003-12-09 21:10:32

Is it me or is Windows 2000 Pro and resolution for 800x600 going extinct? I mean come on, most computers out there are using 800x600. And those of you who make themes, act like there is some sort of divine law, to make a theme that's NOT in 800x600. I'm sure there are others out there, who get tired of searching for a theme that's either res. indepent, or is just 800x600. Every now and then I come across one that's been made with a higher resolution, and was made on WinXP.

It's hard to find a theme that works with older model computers. Since some themes, seem to either be missing modules, or completely fry your computer. I have nothing against those of you who make themes. But please, could someone please take into consideration, and EXPERIMENT, on lower resolutions. And possibly try them on Win2k..if not, then experiement on the lower resolution.

Posted by member 1 on 2003-12-09 21:13:21 link

well...anything that works on XP SHOULD work on 2K. I have yet to find any module that works only on XP. Now...working with 9x kernels is a little different and a gripe should be expected.

Posted by member 35 on 2003-12-09 21:20:54 link

i only had problems with a version of icondesk, dont remember which. and i think most of the themes are res independant, at least the ones from 2001 - early2003.

Posted by member 5600 on 2003-12-09 21:27:41 link

I've had two themes crash on me. Which were supposed to work for both WinXP and Win2k. Something called rainmeter. For some strange reason, no matter how many times, the author replaces it...it still crashes. And with others, different modules are missing.

Posted by member 37 on 2003-12-09 21:31:21 link

Any theme by Pharoe that's OTS2 should work on 800x600 and with older computers.

Posted by member 5600 on 2003-12-09 22:27:41 link

I'm using one now, that I just dl'ed and its working fine, although two modules are missing.

Posted by member 36955 on 2003-12-09 23:21:43 link

win2k is still being widely used (im using it), but 800x600 really isnt... that said, there are plenty of themes out there that are resolution independent. if you tell us whats going wrong with the themes youre trying (what theme is it, what modules arent working, etc.) then we might be able to help you out.

Posted by member 7223 on 2003-12-10 00:41:53 link

Shrreder never worked on my Win2K box.

Posted by member 5600 on 2003-12-10 07:37:05 link

There are too many themes that do not work on my computer. As for the resolution ... truthfully there are more 800x600 than any others. Especially those who have Win9x...and a few early modeled Win2k's such as myself. I may get lucky on a few themes that were made from a resolution higher than my own. And they weren't independants.

Posted by member 77276 on 2003-12-10 10:19:20 link

I use win98SE, and the only gripe I have is modules/themes only made for 2000/XP. I would like to have theme authors say that fact in their release, so I could just skip it immediately, and not download it, read the readme, find out there is no dependancy (or so it seems), then find out its using some transparent module or something.

Posted by member 5600 on 2003-12-10 14:21:09 link

I used to have Win98SE, and all Litestep did for me is crash everytime I installed a theme, that was SUPPOSED to be for that version of windows. Obviously they weren't. With Win2k, I have fewer crashes, but the same problem. So I agree with you HovaQ.

Posted by member 182 on 2003-12-10 19:59:57 link

it's usually little or no effort to make a theme resolution independant. i can't understand why more themers don't use negative co-ordinates for modules on the right screen edge

Posted by member 77276 on 2003-12-10 22:53:25 link

Right now LiteStep is pretty stable for me. I'm using austerity, because the other theme was using Rainmeter which seems to have a memory leak. I like themers and module writers that take their time to configure their work.

Posted by member 71746 on 2003-12-11 05:23:37 link

The only reason a themer would have for not having the theme be resolution-indie would be if there are a lot of draggable LSBoxes that have RememberPosition specified. lsBox always remembers positions in positive values, even if the box is flush up against the bottom-right corner of the screen, so if you change resolution and have jDeskRecycleOnRezChange specified, your LsBox would then reappear in the middle of the screen or way offscreen.

If one isn't using draggable ls-boxes with RememberPosition there's no excuse for res-dependancy (unless maybe you've got some extensive use of layercuts going on and your whole desktop is your interface).

The following themes were designed by me on Win2000 so they should work no problem, and are all rez-indie:
- Slick (v2.0 is the newest release)
- Intuition (basically an extension of slick.. better architecture though)
- Compuglobalhypermeganet

HovaQ, v0.9 of rainmeter fixes that memory leak i believe.. (not positive on that one)

Posted by member 5600 on 2003-12-11 07:38:21 link

Well, I've never had a memory leak. Not through LS anyway. I seem to have less problems with Phar0e's themes. Aside from missing one or two modules in the downloads. Even with that, the themes still work perfectly fine. So I wont complain about his/her work.

Posted by member 182 on 2003-12-11 17:48:20 link

inhaler: that's still not stopping the themer manually defining negative co-ordinates in the box files.

this will last for one recycle, which is exactly enough to package the theme and distribute.