LiteStep might not be for you if ... Thread last updated on 2006-06-30 08:43:51

Posted by member 910 on 2003-06-26 22:56:12

If you don't like to read documentation, Litestep might not be for you.

If you don't like to configure programs via a text file, Litestep might not be for you.

If you think things should work perfectly the first time and every time, Litestep might not be for you.

If you are not comfortable with having your computer crash, Litestep might not be for you.

If you like to complain when people put you down for asking a question whose answer is easily found elsewhere, Litestep might not be for you.

If you do not like to troubleshoot problems, Litestep might not be for you.

If the most complicated thing you've done is change your computer's colour scheme, Litestep might not be for you.

Posted by member 7 on 2003-06-27 05:52:29 link

The crashing part is only true for 9x/ME though, and it's usually due to buggy modules. The Litestep core itself is pretty stable. Though as a beginner it'd probably look the same.

Posted by member 7223 on 2003-06-27 09:09:08 link

Humm, I'm really tired of all those f**king rude boys that pollute this forum with questions like:
- I saw a screenshot of Litestep and I wanted to impress my girlfriend. Now, I only have a blank screen. Help me, please
- Could you read in my mind to see what I exactly want and give me the code, because I don't want to read the docs. Isn't this the aim of this community ?

DeViLbOi: can't you simply delete all these redundant and non-senses post ?

Posted by member 99 on 2003-06-27 09:46:27 link

If you just delete them, you'll also have to delete all the posts that say "I thought I posted this earlier, but now I can't find it!"

So maybe: If you can't figure out how to use the search function on a web forum, LiteStep might not be for you.

Posted by member 1031 on 2003-06-27 09:50:17 link

It would be nice if non-OTS themes were not within reach of noobs... ;-) it seems it is most often those which cause "problems", and by "problems" I mean "one should read the readme before one tries to run it". I swear though; once I found somebody trying to use a BlackBox theme in LS...

Perhaps we should make a theme installer that forces the theme readme.txt to open? :-)

Posted by member 7223 on 2003-06-27 09:59:01 link

...but how could you make the theme installer forces the user to READ the readme.txt just open ?

Posted by member 1783 on 2003-06-27 10:56:05 link

maybe make it full-screen and automatically scroll, but veeery slowly. and a special hotkey that only advanced user know, which can be used to close the readme. ;D

Posted by member 1 on 2003-06-27 14:44:29 link

I set up my new theme to have docs load on startup. Simple script with textedit and mzscript.

Posted by member 2112 on 2003-06-27 18:20:47 link

I thought of doing something like this. I wanted a prompt to appear the first time someone used my theme asking if they would like to read the readme file. I never investigated it further. I'm interested to see any code someone has.

Posted by member 1031 on 2003-06-28 02:49:52 link

Egonz: yeah... and this special hotkey is actually mentioned in the body of the readme but not at the beginning :-)

nice idea, DeViLbOi. now I gotta try that! Tips about this in the Code forum would be much appreciated, if you have time...

I remember seeing a program a while ago which was quite humorous, it asked "Do you want to see the readme?" and if you clicked No, it asked "Are you not sure you don't not want to see the readme?". Heh heh, then, no matter which you clicked it would show the readme :-)

Posted by member 1783 on 2003-06-28 11:53:47 link

i remember that phar0e used to have an automatically starting readme in his themes :)

Posted by member 4132 on 2003-07-04 06:15:24 link

and it's very nice function indeed ;)
It's way easier than heving to go out of your way to find the readme...

Posted by member 6801 on 2003-07-18 11:45:09 link

LiteStep might not be for you if ...
-you allways have blue screens (include 2000 and xp) :O

-you didn't what to press any key in the instalation process :P

-you didn't have WinZip (rare) :o

-you didn't know the official pages (most rare) :o

Posted by member 7 on 2003-07-19 14:45:53 link

Then tell me AngelKnight, what are the official pages? ^_^

Posted by member 17692 on 2003-07-20 07:56:36 link

if ...
- you don't want to use Microsoft products at all. Period :P

Posted by member 51895 on 2003-07-25 22:06:09 link

You might not want to ask for assistance regarding Litestep if:

-You've read all the README's
-You've made a simple, stupid mistake
-You've read this insulting thread

Posted by member 52831 on 2003-07-31 01:40:06 link

LITE STEP IS FOR ME!!!!

Posted by member 39367 on 2003-07-31 17:24:35 link

Yeah changing wallpapers is hard.

Posted by member 37809 on 2003-08-02 19:55:58 link

*bzZt*
A sunny, well-lit room. Pan to grinning lsuser in front of computer. Uplifting music playing in background.

Panic attacks are normal when taking LiteStep. Other side effects are generally mild and may include headache, nausea, and insomnia. LiteStep should be taken no longer than seven (7) days if problems continue to persist without improvement. Talk to your doctor today to see if*bzSt*

Posted by member 37809 on 2003-08-02 20:37:29 link

I thought of doing something like this. I wanted a prompt to appear the first time someone used my theme asking if they would like to read the readme file. I never investigated it further. I'm interested to see any code someone has.

DrWorm: quite late, but I posted a sample for such in the Code forum.

Posted by member 5836 on 2003-08-06 18:48:26 link

If you think things should work perfectly the first time and every time, Litestep might not be for you.

that is so true, sometimes doing a simple task/change may take minutes for me hehehe ;) im so careless

Posted by member 1316 on 2003-08-07 12:31:37 link

Litestep may not be for you if:
you can't spell Litestep correctly.

Posted by member 1783 on 2003-08-07 13:37:30 link

lol :D that's evil, but true...

Posted by member 61545 on 2003-09-08 16:35:55 link

newbie here, just adding my self to the forum, i quite like litestep, its so easy to create ur own feel to you desktop, i wish i found out about it sooner.

Posted by member 61545 on 2003-09-08 16:37:49 link

i found no troubles, only that switching back to explorer is kinda risky, (XP user)

Posted by member 1783 on 2003-09-09 02:35:23 link

@devz3ro: no it's not :) use 2 accounts. one for ls and the other for explorer ;)

Posted by member 1316 on 2003-09-09 10:03:41 link

or, if you installed litestep using a recent omar installer, there's a program included, setshell.exe. works pretty good. requires a reboot to switch shells, but it works.

Posted by member 61545 on 2003-09-13 07:04:49 link

recently virus stuffed my comp, (re-install LS) AGAIN...lol

Posted by member 66894 on 2003-09-29 20:08:02 link

ok so maybe litestep isn't for me, but i want it to be for me. i have the intentions to read all the readme's. i gotta start somewhere if i want to ever reach your guru/godlike knowledge status, so give me a chance. please.
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my question was: is there a ls build for windows xp? the only builds i've seen thus far were for nt, me, 9x, etc.
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i'm trying my best, guys. really.

Posted by member 64960 on 2003-09-29 22:15:53 link

http://www.litestep.net/?section=7&catId=0&action=details&id=68

Elsewhere on this site. Should install litestep with simplicity theme.

Posted by member 7 on 2003-09-30 08:11:44 link

Where does it say that LS is only for NT or 9x/ME? We need to notify the maintainer of that site to change it, it has already confused a number of people. There is only a single version of LiteStep which should work on all windows versions starting from Win95 (although with the original 95 you need to install IE 4). Some modules however do NOT work on all these versions...

Posted by member 70200 on 2003-10-12 19:28:15 link

Hi, I just heard about this, and I have a question first before Im will to try. I am not new to computers or scripting, so Im not worried about the use of the LS, but atm im using Win98 and its running superbly. Everything running super fast and smooth, and no crashes! But i want more customizations and a prettier interface. Is it going to effect performance, or stability much? I noticed it said it may crash on win98/me, is this just due to users own errors?
Thanks in advance

Posted by member 1316 on 2003-10-12 22:25:00 link

if you're using win98, it will probably be more stable. if win98se, probably about the same (since SE was a pretty stable version, relatively). performance shouldn't be effected much, except that YOURS will probably be enhanced once you get it configured to fit your style. ;)

Posted by member 59972 on 2003-10-27 21:26:22 link

pika, what you say is all too true. I introduced a few of my friends to litestep, and they hated it since it wasn't in microsoft's 'easy to install, impossible to modify' frame of mind. One friend even uninstalled LS 10 minutes after installing it because he couldn't get his favorite screensaver on. But i figure, let him go play miniclip ping-pong on his clone box, with all the default settings left on. His loss.

Posted by member 50784 on 2003-11-01 13:45:53 link

The major problem comes from the fact that newbies don't read ANY readme's. 95% of the questions asked by noobs can find answer in the oficial doc (witch is not up to date, though) or in module docs (witch "simple users" never read).
So I think that the problem relevant to general questions can not be solved.The ONLY solution is to READ THE DOCS.
But the problem relevant to specific theme questions, has a solution:
A themer can write his read me in a "label" that will be loaded alone on frst start of a theme (before the theme is loaded) and so the user HAS TO READ the readme.Then the
can label can last for an amount of time (the time that one need to read it) and at the end of that time a mesage box appear with the question "have you read the readme". If YES then the theme loads, else if NO there's the label readme again for the same amount of time.
My guess is that this is the only way to make users read the readme.
And for the "power-users", we can imagine a hotkey to run the theme (Egonz's idea),witch will be hiden somewhere in the config files so noobs can't find it easely.

Even if not tested, this should be possible, but it may be too mutch scripting just for "making one read the readme".

Posted by member 7 on 2003-11-03 05:34:01 link

Well it might solve some problems, but remember the responses to aza's attempt to force people to read bb4win's readme...

Posted by member 80782 on 2003-11-07 18:52:14 link

If you think things should work perfectly the first time and every time, Litestep might not be for you.


Let's make that computers...period...'neff said...et cetera et cetera...

I'm used to doing fig edits in text editors, I'm a linux user. I hate the windows shell, it's unusable in it's current state.

dubya.

Posted by member 54241 on 2003-11-09 19:51:12 link

great to be back and yeah i agree

Posted by member 81789 on 2003-11-10 09:27:39 link

Only the therd and forth items is true for me

Posted by member 72897 on 2003-11-20 06:57:51 link

I love editing text files to reconfigure stuff ;). It's the simple mans way lol. I run a temporary server for a couple online games that requre you to heavily edit text files. It's great!

Posted by member 85264 on 2003-11-25 13:40:35 link

If you think installing a theme should not involve downloading software updates, searching for missing files, clicking through 12 erroneous dialogue boxes and resetting your computer, litestep might not be for you.

Posted by member 36955 on 2003-11-25 16:07:50 link

if you think creating a theme is just a simple process of messing around with configuration files until it works on your computer with minimal testing and no real regard for standards, then theming might not be for you

(this isnt toward you coyote, but toward those people that made those themes... try looking around a bit... there are plenty of themes that work without any manual configuration at all under the most recent installer)

Posted by member 85264 on 2003-11-25 21:33:51 link

No problem. Just contributing to the thread topic. P.S. I'm using the most recent version of LiteStep with the most recent version of the installer with the most recently released themes. :) Windows 2k, hardware engineer.

Posted by member 41071 on 2003-11-26 20:00:54 link

quoting ilmcuts:
The crashing part is only true for 9x/ME though, and it's usually due to buggy modules. The Litestep core itself is pretty stable. Though as a beginner it'd probably look the same.

my friend loves Litestep, and runs it on XP, until he noticed unfrequently total lockups of the computer. these stop as soon as he switches to explorer. something is very unstable on some hardware at least.

Posted by member 7 on 2003-11-27 06:16:02 link

But your friend most likely doesn't run the Litestep core "standalone".

Posted by member 87729 on 2003-11-27 07:33:13 link

I am currently downloading LiteStep (no, it finished two seconds ago) and I only wanted to ask if should install it even though the "docs" aren't available at the moment?! I don't want to install it and don't know what to do then, you know? ;)
If there won't be any reply in the next 2 minutes, I'll install it anyway :D

Posted by member 1316 on 2003-11-28 09:08:45 link

there are other docs...individual module docs(which are usually all you will need), plus theming docs (http://o-t-s.sourceforge.net/index.html)

Posted by member 162726 on 2004-05-18 21:28:20 link

"ilmcuts
03.09.30 @ 08:11
Where does it say that LS is only for NT or 9x/ME? "

Can't help laughing at that one. Microsoft created confusion when they decided to call NT5.0 by Windows 2000, 5.1 is called XP, and 5.2 is 2003. Amazingly few people realize they are running NT.

Anyways...my first post, and howdy all. I'm looking at litestep for the first time. Might try it after I browse around....

Posted by member 7 on 2004-05-19 10:03:21 link

I'm well aware of that. I was referring to NT4, replying to callcollin1's post. Almost every week someone asks whether LS works on XP. A few times I've tried to figure out why people are asking this, but have never gotten a reply (as above).

I suspect that there's some website out there which says that LS is for 9x/ME and NT4/2K only, but without knowing which one it is we can't change it.

Posted by member 179734 on 2004-07-07 05:04:00 link

Mr_Goat, I agree - changing walpapers [b]is[/i] hard!
*wanders off to read through things again*

Posted by member 181735 on 2004-07-17 18:34:24 link

If you can get 3 versions Linux installed, their kernels configures, their WM's tweaked, Wine hacked to work right, Quicktime hacked to work under Wine, and tweak the interface by compiling custon GUI hacks from self-modified source, then Litestep is child's play...

Or if you've ever tried to install Unix on your box, this is easy ;)

Posted by member 183887 on 2004-07-20 22:36:56 link

yup yup... I'mma prolly going to get flamed, but hey... Is there a tutorial in which i can get litestep working? I.e. Compile, or install? I don't have a problem with text file options, etc. But would someone point me to the help file on installing/setting up? :D
Oh, I have Dual Monitors, But at the same resolution, 1600X1200, or 1280X1024, whichever strikes my fancy for the day (usually lower resolution in morning, when my eyes are still having trouble focusing :P)
ANYWHO, i had it running on w2k about 8 months ago... but that was just an install file... i cannot seem to find it in the new version released july 5th.
Thanks for any help!
Sudz

Posted by member 183887 on 2004-07-20 22:42:37 link

Ignore that last message... Found the older version... self installing. WOULD like to get the newer version though... :D if anyone would walk me through it, i'd be grateful!

Posted by member 109836 on 2004-07-22 07:04:13 link

Posted by member 189853 on 2004-08-05 23:14:34 link

In regards to only working on 98/NT, I believe I read that in the LSFAQ somewhere. Let me see if I can track it down.
Hmmm .... let me see, the statement:
. What is LiteStep?

(Edited from readme.txt) Litestep is a shell replacement for Windows 95, 98, and NT,

is located here:
LINK

Posted by member 1228 on 2004-08-10 21:56:04 link

Some of the FAQ stuff is...well...OLD. For people who are using older versions. That I missed though. :) Like I always say, let me know of problems so I can fix them. Oh, and I'm fairly certain LiteStep works fine with SP2. Have to do my 'main testing' once I finish up 2-3 things and can reboot.

Posted by member 195241 on 2004-08-26 09:22:08 link

litestep might not be for you if uou like to change things after a few beverages

Posted by member 212670 on 2005-10-26 13:56:26 link

Litestep might not be for you if you write gems like "Where the hell are the theme files for new vis effects," in a thread of a different topic, that hasn't been active for over a year.

Posted by member 1 on 2005-11-13 10:46:08 link

LiteStep may not be for you if you have to ask where to download it or how to install it.

Posted by member 280260 on 2005-12-04 22:25:55 link

Litestep may not be for you if you've installed it and are still using Omar's austerity theme.


Not that there's anything wrong with austerity - it just seems like a contradiction in terms to install litestep and then always use the default theme.
Nearly as bad as leaving your background to that "bliss" thing that ships with XP....

Posted by member 295104 on 2005-12-29 16:30:12 link

what exactly is litestep?

Posted by member 1 on 2005-12-29 17:04:33 link

becs1619 :: That would be a good example of why LiteStep is not right for you.

http://lsdocs.shellfront.org

Posted by member 248213 on 2005-12-29 22:08:34 link

Man, what is this? like "the" worst thread to ask that question?

what exactly is a **** silly ****?

Posted by member 302005 on 2006-01-27 11:27:27 link

lolol i just installed litestep and read some docs... it's working fine for me. of course explorer is nice too but if i get used to litestep it's a nice little thing to have.

i guess what you're trying to say is if you're someone who doesn't know anything about computers or the windows operating system then don't use litestep. :o

hehe thanks for this little... comment! :D

~nightfire

Posted by member 325942 on 2006-05-17 19:33:21 link

Litestep may not be for you if: you have dial-up. as a matter of fact if you have dial-up, you may as well go screw yourself.

RE: Litestep may not be for you if: you are a 16year old kid who can't afford to upgrade to high-speed

Posted by member 325192 on 2006-05-19 11:31:13 link

You know I had just downloaded the installer and was going to install it until I read this thread. This is not a community, but a clique of social ineptness.

Posted by member 212670 on 2006-05-19 12:11:03 link

Litestep might not be for you if...

-You judge a community based on a single thread while ignoring every other thread where people go out of their way to be helpful.

Posted by member 330042 on 2006-06-30 08:43:51 link

Litestep might not be for you if...

-Your home computer doesn't have Internet Access
(Which mine doesn't - have to use Library Computer)