I'm looking for a theme. . . . Thread last updated on 2003-06-28 19:19:25

Posted by member 43366 on 2003-06-25 13:47:01

I'm looking for a theme that is more than just a neet bar and a nice background. I'm looking for something that completley changes the looks over everything. For examle, I don't want my windows looking like windows, so that the close, maximize, and minize buttons are differnt.

I've downloaded two or three that appear to do what I'm thinking in thier previews, but they don't change the looks of indiviual windows when I actually install them.

I'm not sure if I'm missing something, perhaps faling to load a module somewhere, or what.

if this makes sense, then let me know if you can help me!

Posted by member 1316 on 2003-06-25 13:51:59 link

uh, yeah. you're missing something. no litestep theme or module will, or even can (yet, at least), change the appearance of windows. for that, you need style xp, windowblinds, or some other similar program.

Posted by member 32550 on 2003-06-25 13:54:49 link

I think you think wrong, LS is ONLY for changing your desktop, what you mean is a window skin program like shellWM or WindowBlinds.

shellwm: http://shellwm.sourceforge.net/

windowblinds: http://www.windowblinds.net/

Posted by member 43366 on 2003-06-25 14:38:15 link

I tried windowblinds, but was not satisfied with it's performance. Does sheel wm run better and use less system resources?

Posted by member 1316 on 2003-06-25 14:43:24 link

I've never tried it, so I couldn't say. However, the current windowblinds version (4.0), is supposed to be less of a resource hog. is that the version you tried?

Posted by member 43366 on 2003-06-25 14:44:59 link

I'm not sure; I tried it about 6 months ago. I had it, object desktop, and icon packager running at the same time, and I could't run anything like PhotoShop.

Posted by member 1316 on 2003-06-25 14:46:18 link

sorry, I meant to say I've never tried shellwm.

Posted by member 43366 on 2003-06-25 14:49:24 link

Yeah, that's what I understood. I just was not impressed with it at all, especially since it's not open source (Windowblinds, I mean!)

Posted by member 32550 on 2003-06-25 15:29:40 link

ShellWM is still a beta version, but it runs very good with less resources, but, it's beta so there could be bugs. and you realy have to read the files, especially the window exclusions!!!

oh and it is free, and I think this is the most important thing ;)

Posted by member 43366 on 2003-06-25 16:12:51 link

Yeah, I downloaded it, and tried it on my laptop. It loads all kinds of other IBM ThinkPad garbage at startup, so my resources were down to 73, but I'm going to play around with it a little bit. Thanks for the advice!

Posted by member 39367 on 2003-06-26 12:11:46 link

You should get the uxtheme.dll hack\patch. It does the same thing but no resource hogging and it automatically skins scrollbars for free :-) Do a google search for it, they have an executable that patches it for you. If you have any more questions just ask.

Posted by member 43366 on 2003-06-26 14:15:44 link

I downloaded ShellWM, and it did what I wanted it to do, but it shot the resources through the roof! I guess since it's just in beta there is still quite a bit of work to do on it.

Enlighten me with a few more details about this uxtheme.dll. Will it allow you to skin themes to it as well, or does it only allow for one theme?

Posted by member 39367 on 2003-06-26 16:28:03 link

uxtheme.dll is a file in windows xp that verifies that your visual styles have microsofts digital signature. Of course all the cool ones dont. So basically what windowblinds and style xp do is hack this dll and make it so you dont need a digital signature to set themes. Downloading this dll by itself will let you skin scrollbars, windows etc without having to install style xp or windowblinds. Ive only been able to get it to work with style xp themes which is great and theres no resource loss at all. Do a google search and you can probably learn even more.

Posted by member 43366 on 2003-06-26 21:52:53 link

I guess the only problem there is that I don't run XP. I run 98SE.

Posted by member 910 on 2003-06-26 22:33:01 link

You could also try eFX, Illuminatoin, or Custom Eyes.

Posted by member 6742 on 2003-06-27 04:49:47 link

Correction on the windowblinds/uxtheme.dll issue: Windowblinds actually intercepts the graphics calls and redirects 'em to files predefined in a skin package. This means it'll run on ANY Windows variety, whereas the uxtheme.dll hack will only apply to XP systems (and also violates your license agreement)

Posted by member 1316 on 2003-06-27 08:29:12 link

however, windowblinds doesn't run as well on non-xp/2k systems. it'll run, don't get me wrong, it'll just more resources, as it's somewhat geared towards the newer OS's.

Posted by member 43366 on 2003-06-27 09:16:17 link

that's food for though. I loaded windowblinds trials a few months agon, and was very unhappy with the performance. It's been kind of the same way recently with shellwm. When I load shellwm, my resources immediatly go down to 73% or lower. When I unload it, they go back. Since I know that it was developed from customeyes, I'm kind of nervouse about using that, but there again, I don't know anything about eFX or Illumination.

Posted by member 1783 on 2003-06-27 11:08:11 link

i've tried them both and if you think shellwm is buggy then don't use 'em. they caused too much trouble for me at least.

Posted by member 43366 on 2003-06-27 14:03:27 link

hmmmm. . . .

Posted by member 6742 on 2003-06-28 15:33:32 link

It's kind of funny like that. WindowBlinds skins so many different elements of the UI, with all sorts of added functionality, but on my system it still comes out with the same resource usage as ShellWM, which pretty much just skins window borders. Just got WB4 for W2K, and although it's using 4-5megs of my memory, it actually blits faster on some applications (!?!) The only time it seems to slow anything down is when it's on the config screen. Stardock will probably open up version 4 for Me/98/95 users in the next couple of months.

Posted by member 43366 on 2003-06-28 19:19:25 link

Well, what I was going to ask you all is what kind of machines you are running. I'm currently running a PII/266 with about 450mb or RAM. I know I need to upgrade, I just doin't have the funds. However, what I was wondering is if running a P4 1Ghz or faster has a better effect with skinning/shell replacement software than what I'm haging.

Perhaps that is why I haven't had great luck with WB, or even litestep.