Posted by member 375904 on 2007-07-05 07:49:13 link
@ls-universe: thank you, now simpledark loads without error and Haga has "only" one error left, no-locate-problem with C:\LiteStep\modules\lslua-0.5\args.lua.dll
@all
I must say that this kind of thing makes LS an experts-only tool. I am certainly no beginner, neither at computers and windows in general nor at programming. And I spent hours (really!) chasing along completely the wrong path because the error-messages pointed in a very wrong direction.
If LS is meant for widespread use then this kind of issue should IMHO not happen. I also know many people with years of professional computing experience, like network-admins, GIS-experts and the like who will be quite capable of using LS but will not (can not) spend time going after this kind of error.
I also know many many "normal" users who would be happy to have something like LS for lots of reasons, but are not capable of identifying solutions of this kind.
These are the kinds of small errors that
a) are very easy to solve once and for all at the base (meaning the distro)
and
b) have a devastating effect, locking out 90% (in mean it) of potential users simply by frustrating them in the first few hours. Those 90% will just give up.
No one will read the module-doc under these conditions. The problem occurs at least in 2 Themes, see above, and there is no reason at all (unless you already know) to search in the right direction. To someone outside LS it looks very much like a bug in LS itself.
The xPaintClass-Problem could AFAIKS be solved simply by including xPaintClass in the LS-distro AND by redesigning the error-messages.
There are at least 3 different errors all apparently causing the same message:
1) the module itself is missing
2) MSVCP70.DLL or the like is missing
3) another module like xPaintClass is missing
That is enough to shoot down anyone who is not willing to spend hours or does not have hours of spare time or who is not savvy enough.
IMO LiteStep only makes sense if it is a tool for many people, not just for relatively few LS-experts.
I do unterstand that an enormous effort has been put into LS and many people worked really hard to make it what it is. And it is a really great tool that deserves to be used by many people.
So what I ask is: please check and clear up the few remaining "bugs" that hit every LS-newbie. It will be only few, they will be small, but they are REALLY annoying and cost lots of wasted time and energy to lots of people who would love to actually use LS.
THX, jc
@all
I must say that this kind of thing makes LS an experts-only tool. I am certainly no beginner, neither at computers and windows in general nor at programming. And I spent hours (really!) chasing along completely the wrong path because the error-messages pointed in a very wrong direction.
If LS is meant for widespread use then this kind of issue should IMHO not happen. I also know many people with years of professional computing experience, like network-admins, GIS-experts and the like who will be quite capable of using LS but will not (can not) spend time going after this kind of error.
I also know many many "normal" users who would be happy to have something like LS for lots of reasons, but are not capable of identifying solutions of this kind.
These are the kinds of small errors that
a) are very easy to solve once and for all at the base (meaning the distro)
and
b) have a devastating effect, locking out 90% (in mean it) of potential users simply by frustrating them in the first few hours. Those 90% will just give up.
No one will read the module-doc under these conditions. The problem occurs at least in 2 Themes, see above, and there is no reason at all (unless you already know) to search in the right direction. To someone outside LS it looks very much like a bug in LS itself.
The xPaintClass-Problem could AFAIKS be solved simply by including xPaintClass in the LS-distro AND by redesigning the error-messages.
There are at least 3 different errors all apparently causing the same message:
1) the module itself is missing
2) MSVCP70.DLL or the like is missing
3) another module like xPaintClass is missing
That is enough to shoot down anyone who is not willing to spend hours or does not have hours of spare time or who is not savvy enough.
IMO LiteStep only makes sense if it is a tool for many people, not just for relatively few LS-experts.
I do unterstand that an enormous effort has been put into LS and many people worked really hard to make it what it is. And it is a really great tool that deserves to be used by many people.
So what I ask is: please check and clear up the few remaining "bugs" that hit every LS-newbie. It will be only few, they will be small, but they are REALLY annoying and cost lots of wasted time and energy to lots of people who would love to actually use LS.
THX, jc